He was released, and went out for Tough Enough. Sorry if Andy just happened to be the best next to Martin.

That competition was completely legit.

Let me guess, you're a Luke fan?

Although it may of not been a screwjob I'd of preferred TE to take a format in which it's guys who have never wrestled in there lives, rather then those with past experience, which is most of what this series consisted of.

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Although it may of not been a screwjob I'd of preferred TE to take a format in which it's guys who have never wrestled in there lives, rather then those with past experience, which is most of what this series consisted of.

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That would just be unsafe, and take to long really. They should have at least a little bit of background before getting there. I like it this way to be honest.

It wouldn't necessarily be unsafe. In fact it could prove to be a very popular reality tv show if filmed in a format such as The Biggest Loser which roles out for weeks yet is filmed ages in advance of air date and by the time the final show comes around the competitors are ready for a live show where the public votes or something, I think that'd work. I mean you say it'd be unsafe? How? Every single wrestler started from the bottom.

so what, youd rather a program be aired that people can be perceived as becoming good enough to compete in the wwe in just 10 weeks of training..... nah, I have no problems with anything from this series' tough enough.

I'm not saying 10 weeks. I'm saying at least I don't know 6 months? Maybe more? It sounds extensive but the actual program could be cut down a lot more.

I think it would be unsafe because Though Enough is not "training" them as intense as places dedicated to training. This trains you how to get a WWE development chance. It's not nearly as indepth as a true training school, so I think some background experience is needed. I think it played out perfectly.

From what I remember reading, the Casting call FOR this reboot of Tough Enough called for people with wrestling experience of different levels. So the point was to have people that were more ready for the big time. I remember equating it to Taz's wrestling school - Not for beginners, but more of a refinement to get you over the hump.

I thought the show was fantastic. I watched every episode and it only got better and better as the season wore on. I'd make a few minor changes but it's a solid reality tv show.

I think the problem is that this kind of thing can call into question weather the voting system on the show is fixed, and certainly I think all of the rookies need to start at pretty much an equal level. At the end of the day, even though many get contracts anyway, you still want to give the impression than winning is a big deal, and if this guy was pretty much safe no matter what, it renders the whole thing a little bit void.

WHat voting system, Keith? It's not American Idol. Stone Cold says who goes home. It's not a vote. It's an arbitrary decision by one guy.

Alright, I am currently training to be a wrestler and I'm agreeing with Prodigy here. Tough Enough should be like a six-month format where people who have never wrestled in their lives go and do the entire thing. Of course the show can be cut down, film at least 4 months then do the last two months of training with showing bits and pieces from the beginning months?

It doesn't really take long to learn basics and isn't Tough Enough all about being 'Tough Enough' not 'I was once a wrestler'.

Just saying, besides... The Miz wasn't a wrestler before he got on Tough Enough. He appeared in Reality TV shows, look where he is now.

I'd rather watch people who have trained before and are ready to be in the WWE than completely green rookies who have no clue what they're doing. You can't learn to wrestle well in six months. People train a hell of a long time before they understand what they're doing. So with people with no experience, the winner would still be somebody who has no business in a televised WWE ring.

I thought that Tough Enough was almost perfect this season. WWE based it more on their original show rather than the last edition of Tough Enough before this one where it was full of stupid skits that was more like NXT. This show was outstanding to watch and overall the right decisions were made as to who was released and who stayed. I had no issue with Andy winning and I have no issue if he used to be part of FCW before this show, Christina was as well but that doesn't change anything. WWE had probably looked at a few of these wrestlers before and it wasn't like Andy had been used on a WWE show before.

I think that the current format is perfect and changing it to people who don't know how to wrestle is a terrible idea. There would be so many more injuries and you would have people leaving because they can't handle it like what happened in the first Tough Enough. This way you get people that know the basics already but need refinement.