Jack Swagger, it is time for a change!

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Keith

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There has been much talk on this board about the likes of Dolph Ziggler and Drew Mcintyre being good young wrestlers who have big futures in WWE. Well for me the All American, American is the real deal! He has a good look to start off with, and by that I mean looks a natural athlete, he has decent mic skills and a confident personaity, and of course is a good wrestler, who can mix it up in terms of styles, for example he is a pretty solid brawler.

However since he dropped the World Title last year [which he was given too soon anyway] the treatment of him has been terrible. A few weeks ago I was watching raw and he had a match with Booker T, which not only did he lose on a weak count out finish, but he was also dominated by the semi-retired Booker all the way through the match. Now don't get me wrong it was good to see Booker make a one off appearence, and he seems the ideal veteran to give Swagger some rub, but to start of with this sort of match should have been on a ppv, and second would it not have made more sense for the guy making a one off appearence, who is in his 40's now, to put the up and coming twenty something over.

Last week was even worse, as he faced Sgt Slaughter who nobody cares about. Luckily Jack won this time, but it was a very short match, and the win did little if anything for him, and he still got beat down by Evan Bourne and Slaughter after the match. Speaking of Bourne the feud between him and Swagger has be relegated to the bottom section of raw, which makes no sense considering they are two of WWE's youngest and brightest names.

So something needs to be done, firstly a face change, and really his current character would only need a little twick, because providing they didn't make it too cheesy, the All American character would be a good fit for a baby face, it worked well for Kurt Angle in 2001. The only thing while playing that side up, I would also mould Swagger's face character on Jericho's from 2000-01, where he would be quite colourful on the mic, and make an habbit of insulting his foes, because he has quite a relaxed but also a cocky tone to him, this could work.

Character wise I would rebuild him, by going back to his roots and showing footege of him when he was younger, and about his sports background growing up, then after a series of videos, you could have Swagger after the final one, in confident fashion say "That was then and this is now, this is the New and improved All American American!" I would then rebuild him in something like a wrestling based, best of seven series against a fellow mid-carder on raw, and then get him ready for the likes of Del Rio and Miz, who he could really have some great matches and feuds with.

What would you do, to re-build Jack Swagger.
 

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1. Ziggler is used currently on the roster and is the US Champion... He could stay there, face McIntyre (Who is now on Superstars losing to Ryder)

With Swagger, have him with the MITB, cash it in... 2 in a row MITB winner... But this time make him relevant and keep him in the Main Event scene for a long time... There is no plans for him on RAW right now and it'd work...

But it leaves Truth & Del Rio out of the picture, wish Swagger was on Smackdown still...

I'd give him a face change, that's what I'd do.
 

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I agree that part of the problem is that most of the good mid-card talent are on SD right now, feuds with the likes of Del Rio and Miz could be great, but at the moment they are way above Swagger in the pecking order so it would have to wait.

Don't think they should rush him to the top, fact is he was World Champion last year, and then sank like a stone, so he does need re-building. Maybe a feud with someone like Morrison [who I would turn heel] or R-Truth [if Swagger turned face of course] would be good inbetween feuds.
 

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Jack Swagger certainly does need a change. He has had a huge fall from grace and I can't understand why WWE just didn't use him after they took the world title off him. He didn't even get much of a run in the midcard and was mostly forgotten about. I had hoped that after his involvement with Cole WWE would start pushing him again in the midcard but that wasn't to be.

Keith is right that on RAW there really isn't a defined midcard and it is all about the mainevent. RAW needs more proper storylines in the midcard to help keep these guys busy and active in the fans mind. Now most of them are forgotten about and it makes it that much harder to build them into a championship threat.

To rebuild Swagger I would firstly turn him face. Build on the All-American-American gimmick as a face and bring it back to him being a quality mat wrestler. Put him against someone like R-Truth or Miz on RAW. I like the idea of a five or seven match series would be a good way to get the fans interested in a midcard feud.
 

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I like the idea of turning Swagger face he does not get the mic time to stay an effective heel. Best of 7 series is a good idea but only with someone else who can work. Don't like the idea of a best of 7 with Miz or R-Truth. Ziggler would be good but that's not going to put Swagger on a main event level.
 

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Meh. Swagger as a face in theory would be a good idea but to me he's more of a natural heel. I mean come on, even if he starts doing face type of stuff does he really come off as "Likeable?"

It's time for a change I agree with that. It's time to start building him up again, or move his ass back to Smackdown so he can be used. Hell, at least he's the one getting on Raw almost every week. Poor Drew's in the doghouse every week on Superstars.
 

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Swagger is on the wrong show.

He had more success on Smackdown, plus the fact that Smackdown needed another upper midcarder since Smackdown wass bleeding maineventers after the draft. It would've been fine if he had Cole as a manager, but it didn't happen for some stupid reason.

If they wanted to make Swagger a star, they should just let him dump a few people on their heads with suplexes and have him liberally rip off Taz and Angle. Suplex machine Swagger would get over as a credible threat.
 

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Meh. Swagger as a face in theory would be a good idea but to me he's more of a natural heel. I mean come on, even if he starts doing face type of stuff does he really come off as "Likeable?"It's time for a change I agree with that. It's time to start building him up again, or move his ass back to Smackdown so he can be used. Hell, at least he's the one getting on Raw almost every week. Poor Drew's in the doghouse every week on Superstars.

It would work if they played on him being a true american hero, it worked for Angle in 2001. Also I don't think they would have to change the character that much, and I do think a slightly more edgy, quick witted persona in the mould of someone like Jericho when he was face is the way to go.

As for the best of seven idea, I think to extend on that maybe, different matches in the series to have different rules, or could be wrestled in a different style, that way it could bring out contrasting side to Swagger, and it would keep people interested in the matches, if they did it like this, I wouldn't mind someone like Morrison or Miz being the guy involved.
 

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Difference is Angle represented our country and brought home a gold medal to our nation. Swagger hasn't done shit.
 

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No, but it is the same basis for the character, so I don't think that part really matters that much.
 

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Well it seems like Swagger might be getting a new manager in Vickie, either as part of a stable with Ziggler, or maybe Dolph will split and we might get a Swagger-Ziggler feud.

How do you see this moving forward?
Do you think having Vickie as Swagger's manager will be a good move for his career?
 

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I wouldn't mind him having Vickie as his manager, at least it will mean he will be on RAW regularly once again. It will get more heat on him and can allow him to simply go out there and wrestle and Vickie can cut all his promos for him. I have a feeling that this will end up with Ziggler turning face and splitting from Vickie and feuding with Swagger.